Last night on Real Time with Bill Maher, the HBO host railed against Uvalde police for not taking action during the recent mass shooting by an 18-year-old at an elementary school in Texas.

His main question for the panel was “What do you do about people who are paid to act and just don’t? How do you solve that problem?” There to answer was Michael Shellenberger, author of “San Fransicko: Why Progressives Ruin Cities” and gubernatorial hopeful; and Douglas Murray, columnist for the New York Post and The Sun, as well as author of “War on the West: How to Prevail in the Age of Unreason.”

Many have been wondering this week why nothing gets done about police and gun reform in the wake of yet another tragedy in America.

“You are there to protect and serve,” Maher added to his previous comments. “Once in a while, you have to ball up and do the job.”

Shellenberger argued that the reason these mistakes are made are because institutions fail us and that police need more training. He was also hesitant to judge decisions made during life or death situations.

He said, “I think there was this initial reaction that these police officers were cowardly. I don’t think we know that”

“Really?” Maher asked.

“I have to expect that many of those police officers are having a hard time sleeping at night after what’s occurred,” Shellenberger continued.

“Oh, I feel bad for them,” Maher snarked. “They should have a hard time sleeping. That’s, this, what the f—?”

Murray said he finds it absurd that you can buy an assault rifle at 18 but have to wait until 21 to enjoy a beer at a bar. “Let’s switch those things around,” he said. Maher agreed. “We know how stupid we were at 18-21. It’s the least we could do.”

The host expanded, claiming that part of the problem of losing civilization is failure to make judgments. Shellenberger agreed. “You can’t equivocate on the situation.”

Murray added, “Sometimes, empathy isn’t enough.”

The root of the problem appears to be that the country isn’t on the same page about solutions. “This country is about as divided as can be without a war,” Murray said. “If can’t agree about any of the past, that’s not good.” He concluded, “We should be self-critical, but shouldn’t be self-destructive.”

You can watch a clip of the discussion above.

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